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Editor’s Note:
Late breaking news: the long-awaited report on appraising by the
Government Accountability Office is released, in accordance with
Dodd-Frank. Many of the issues raised in this story, written over
the last several weeks, are acknowledged in the just-released report
– so the GAO gets it or most of it anyway- but now what? Find a
“state of the industry” below and more on the GAO report with a
link.
Why Appraisers Should Pat Themselves on Back
By David Brauner, Senior Broker of
OREP.org and Editor of Working RE Magazine
Appraisers, pat yourselves on the back.
Despite getting the short end of the stick, appraisers have stood
up, fought back and made progress since the Home Valuation Code of
Conduct (HVCC) was imposed on the profession over two years ago. And
the final story is not written yet.
Appraiser pushback was a driving force in getting HVCC terminated
over some very strong opposition from banks, AMCs, Fannie/Freddie,
regulators and even from voices within the profession, who defended
HVCC to the bitter end as being “good for appraising.”
Your
letters, emails and face-to-face meetings with lawmakers, along with
vital input from industry vendors, appraiser organizations and other
interested parties, were instrumental in having customary and
reasonable fee language drafted into Dodd-Frank, as well getting an
AMC licensing requirement included over some very powerful ($$$)
players.
You
helped Congress understand that the independence and vitality of
this profession is vital; so vital, lawmakers said, as to warrant
customary and reasonable fee protection. As clumsy and watered-down
as the final C&R fee language wound up, its inclusion is noteworthy
given the forces in opposition. We do not yet see what “customary
and reasonable” will look like post HVCC but it surely will not be
today’s low-bid model.
(story continues below)
The American
Society of Appraisers (ASA) has streamlined the process of becoming
an Accredited Members in Real Property.
About half the states have passed AMC licensing legislation. This
battleground may turn out to be the most important of all. Strong
regulation can cure much of what ails appraisers, including ensuring
that: AMCs/staff and principals are licensed and in good ethical
standing, the timely payment of fees, protection from being forced
to sign onerous third party agreements and protections which assure
that appraisers can’t be removed from an AMC panel without cause- a
strong support of appraiser independence. Some states are even
wading into the customary and reasonable fee bog. There are also
mandates to identify incompetence and fraud by appraisers. AMC
licensing laws are similar to those for appraisers: if a party
breaks the rules, they face disciplinary action, sanction (fines),
and the possible suspension or loss of their license and ability to
do business in that state.
This is a pretty big stick.
(For more, read State Watch: Regulating AMCs
at WorkingRE.com, Volume 27.)
What We Know We know that many appraisers refuse to work for “half” fees-
some out of pride, some with a clear-eyed grasp of their bottom
line, knowing they are not in business to lose money. As a
former boss used to say, if we’re not going to make any money today,
we might as well go fishing.
Conversely, a silent majority/minority of appraisers work for
reduced fees even if they’re not happy about it. We have seen some
drop off in the number of active and licensed appraisers, as per the
National Registry at the Appraiser Subcommittee, but no mass exodus,
not even close. In fact, some appraisers say they are satisfied with
AMC work. Why? Some are ex-fee-shop appraisers who are getting a
better deal from AMCs than they did in their split-fee days. But
there is more to the story: some AMCs do pay fairly and some pay
better in certain markets to certain appraisers:
probably where they can’t find someone to work for less. Some
appraisers take lower fee work because they have lower overhead,
others because they have lower expectations. Over the years many
appraisers have diversified away from lending work and are enjoying
the benefits of having a choice about who to do business with and at
what fee.
Make
no mistake, most feedback we see is similar to the following, sent
by Jennifer Ostrowski. “I am working for the lowest fees ever, I am
still receiving pressure to hit higher values and having to call and
hound my clients to pay. I actually have one client who owes me for
files almost a year old. It seems like we appraisers have been
forgotten. There is nowhere to turn for help and if we complain too
much we will lose our existing clients,” Ostrowski said.
David
Brauner Insurance Services/ OREP/Working RE Magazine
David
Brauner Calif. Insurance License: 0C89873
(story
continues)
The last point Ostrowksi makes may be the most ironic in
this post HVCC world: that because of the consolidation
among lenders/AMCs, appraisal orders flow from far fewer
sources, making it harder and more costly for an
appraiser to “fire” an AMC (and exercise their
independence) for what they deem to be inappropriate
requests. The “restraint of trade” issue and its
consequences is one not found in a quick skimming of the
GAO report. There are numerous stories appraisers tell
of refusing to make a change they believed would result
in a less accurate report and then not getting paid and
not getting future orders. Appraisers say, in some ways,
they have less independence than ever. Others we have
interviewed and featured in stories say they never feel
pressure from AMCs to hit numbers or alter reports (see
survey results below).
We know that while fees have been cut in half,
appraisals have grown more complex and involved- “scope
creep.” We know that another serious issue is what
appraisers describe as a relentless stream of requests
for changes and additional information coming from AMC
reviewers. Some see this as a failure by AMCs to provide
the “gatekeeper” function that they are being paid for.
AMCs, some say, simply forward lender requests to
appraisers without reviewing their legitimacy. A common
complaint by appraisers is receiving requests for
information that is already in the report. Many
appraisers attribute this to incompetence and negligence
on the part of ill-trained AMC staff. AMCs say good
appraisals don’t have problems and that there are just
too few properly trained appraisers capable of providing
consistently good reports.
We know that some appraisers earn higher fees when they
dig in and refuse to work for less, while others say
refusing an AMC’s low-bid fees means never having to
cash a check. Many believe that fees will rise only when
appraisers band together and refuse to work for less
than market rates. Others say no one is forcing anyone
to work for less than a fair wage.
We know this unfortunate irony: HVCC, created and
imposed in supposed support of appraisal independence
and consumer protection, has had the opposite effect,
according to appraisers, which continues even after the
Code has been terminated: appraisers have less
independence and control of their businesses, pressure
and undue influence remains, consumers are paying more
for appraisals (while appraisers make less) and
appraisal quality has declined (see survey results
below).
Many Fixes, One Problem
These are the fixes we hear most often: a customary and
reasonable fee threshold, like Congress intended,
similar to the VA Fee Panel, except with a minimum
threshold that leaves room for variable pricing
based on the complexity of an assignment and/or the
greater expertise and experience of an appraiser. Most
every appraiser knows what “customary and reasonable”
fees are in their market. The OREP/Working RE
Customary and Reasonable Fee Survey surpassed 15,000
recently-ironically, right around
Independence Day(July 4). As of this
writing, the number is closer to 16,000- a strong
response and valid sampling by any measure (Click to find results). Many appraisers ask why we
need surveys at all: aren’t customary and reasonable
fees what consumers pay for appraisals today?
A “cost plus” model is another solution, where lenders
pay AMCs for their services (rather than appraisers
“paying” for the services lenders enjoy), as is greater
transparency, clarity and honesty for consumers by
separating fees paid to appraisers and AMCs. You may be
among those who believe that a boycott is the only
tactic that will work. No matter which of the many
solutions you favor or which you debunk, it’s
disingenuous to say that nothing is wrong: appraiser
fees began declining virtually overnight after the
imposition of HVCC and the rise of AMCs. One does not
have to be an economist to know that this is not the
free market at work.
Appraisers: 68% Satisfied
There has been a lot said recently about appraisers
intending to leave the profession. Indeed the
HVCC Talkback Survey – which has taken the
industry’s temperature since April 2010 and continues
through the present (C
losed), finds 46 percent of appraisers
answering “Yes,” they are “making plans to leave the
profession.” But here is a surprise: 68 percent of
survey takers say they are “generally satisfied with
appraising.”
GAO Report Released
Many of the points addressed in this story were heard by
the GAO and acknowledged (rather matter-of-factly) in
its recently released report, including lower appraisal
quality, continuing pressure, low-bid ordering, etc. The
bottom line recommendation of the study seems to be for
Federal Regulators to develop minimum standards for the
state registration of AMCs, reinforcing this as the new
battlefield. Here is the Recommendation for Executive
Actionfrom the Report:To help
ensure more consistent and effective oversight of the
appraisal industry, we recommend that the heads of FDIC,
the Federal Reserve, FHFA, NCUA, OCC, and the Bureau of
Consumer Financial Protection—as part of their joint
rulemaking required under the Act—consider including the
following areas when developing minimum standards for
state registration of AMCs: criteria for selecting
appraisers for appraisal orders, review of completed
appraisals, and qualifications for appraisal reviewers.
According to California appraiser Andy Anderson, the
study should be of concern to every real estate
professional. “It seems that the GAO believes the
findings in this study to be reliable and credible as
long as the GSEs, major banks and major AMCs
participate. How many individual ‘in the field’ loan
officers, appraisers, underwriters and consumers were
actually interviewed and participated in the study?
NONE were mentioned by name in the report. How many
professionals realize the negative impact that the new
mandatory form filling and delivery requirements
(Uniform Mortgage Data Program – UMDP and the Uniform
Appraisal Dataset - UAD) for loan packages and
appraisals will have on small businesses and the
American public? Soon after this system is in place, I
predict we will see many underwriter, loan processor and
review appraiser positions suddenly become unnecessary,
replaced by the convenience of automation,” said
Anderson, CEO and Founder of Integrity, an
Association for Real Estate Professionals. (Click for
the
GAO study.)
No Choice = Low Quality/Higher Fees for Consumers The last word goes to a Wisconsin appraiser who sent
this note to Working RE last week, which highlights a
trifecta of issues: appraisers and local banks are
losing independence, fees for consumers are rising and
quality is worsening. All of these assertions, by the
way, are in dispute according to the GAO report. This
appraiser says, “Local banks are being forced to use
specific AMCs when selling mortgages on the secondary
market and are unable to use an appraiser, like me, who
they are familiar with. One local bank I work for has a
rotating roster of appraisers for locally-held loans and
pays C&R fees with turn times of two plus weeks. I have
had exactly one stipulation call in dozens of appraisals
for them. But they are given no choice in appraiser
selection if they wish to sell the mortgage on the
secondary market. I told the banker that $200 is the max
the AMCs (they are forced to use) will pay local
appraisers and that I have heard offers as low as $175
and even $125 per appraisal. The banker’s response was,
‘you don't want to know what we are paying.’ This AMC is
charging $600 plus. Suddenly I know why the local bank
misses my customary and reasonable fees compared to AMC
fees! They pay me about $350, if they order straight
through me, for a loan they hold, and the borrower pays
the same $350. With the AMC, I (the appraiser) get $200
to $240 and the bank/borrower is charged around $600, on
the loans that are to be sold through the secondary
market. This is because the bank is required to use that
AMC. And this is why I rarely, if ever, take AMC work.
The problem with AMC fees is that they are unreasonably
high to the borrower and unreasonably low to the
appraiser, so, instead of the majority of the money
staying in the local economy, it moves out of state. The
secondary lenders are forcing local lenders to work with
specific AMCs and denying them the ability to choose the
appraiser. This bank sells a good chunk of loans to the
secondary market. Therefore, they are seeing a wide
disparity in both fees and quality of reports, with the
local roster appraisers having lower costs to borrowers
and higher quality and the appraisals for the secondary
market (through AMCs), generally having lower quality
with higher cost to the borrower.”
HVCC Talkback Survey One Year On
Results
Data collected from April 2010through today.
(Closed)
Since HVCC, you’ve seen appraisal quality in
general: Worsen: 60.5%
Stay about the same: 23.0%
Unsure/don’t know: 11.4%
Improve: 5.0%
Your appraisal reports are more accurate, complete
and free of outside influence today than before HVCC: Disagree: 71.9%
Agree: 20.0%
Unsure/Don’t Know: 8.1%
Since HVCC, you’ve seen the cost of appraisal services
paid by consumers:
Increase: 63.1%
Decrease: 16%
Unsure/don’t know: 11.2%
Stay the Same: 9.8%
Low fees are the main criteria for your receiving
appraisal assignments from AMCs:
You are experiencing less pressure today to alter your
appraisal reports, for any reason, than you did before
HVCC was implemented:
Disagree: 50.1%
Agree: 40.9%
Unsure/Don’t Know: 8.9%
You feel pressure from AMCs “to make a deal work”:
Hardly ever/never: 49.4%
Sometimes: 32.3%
Always/Often: 6.4%
Don’t accept AMC work: 9.1%
Unsure/don’t know: 2.8%
You have been “dropped” from an AMC roster for not
meeting conditions placed on you that you felt were not
in the best interests of an accurate appraisal: Sometimes: 36.4%
Hardly ever/never: 22.9%
Unsure/don’t know: 18.7.%
Always/Often: 13.4%
Don’t accept AMC work: 8.5%
You believe accurate and professionally prepared
appraisals are vital to the health of the real estate
industry/U.S. economy/home buyers/tax payers:
Agree: 99.4%
Disagree: 0.4%
Unsure/Don’t Know: 0.3%
You believe that delivering a consistently reliable
appraisal product is dependent on being compensated
“customary and reasonable fees” (CRFs):
Agree: 66.4%
Disagree: 26.5%
Unsure/don’t know: 7.1%
You are receiving what you consider to be “customary and
reasonable fees” (CFRs) from AMCs for appraisal
assignments:
Hardly ever/never: 56.3%
Sometimes: 25.7%
Don’t accept AMC work: 9.4%
Always/Often: 6.9%
Unsure/don’t know: 1.7.%
About the Author
David Brauner is Editor of Working RE magazine
and Senior Broker at OREP.org, a leading provider of E&O
Insurance for appraisers, inspectors and other real
estate professionals in 49 states (OREP.org). He has
covered the appraisal profession for over 16 years. He
can be contacted at
dbrauner@orep.org
or (888) 347-5273. Calif. Insurance Lic. #0C89873.